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- INFO-HAMS Digest Mon, 11 Dec 89 Volume 89 : Issue 100
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- Today's Topics:
- Modifiying radios for out of band operation
- NASA Prediction Bulletins
- rec.ham-radio is out of control (2 msgs)
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-
- Date: 11 Dec 89 14:50:33 GMT
- From: shlump.nac.dec.com!ryn.esg.dec.com!pstjtt.enet.dec.com!taber@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: Modifiying radios for out of band operation
- Message-ID: <613@ryn.esg.dec.com>
-
- In article <5593@orca.wv.tek.com>, miker@porkface2.WV.TEK.COM writes...
- >In article <31142@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> amirza@silver.bacs.indiana.edu (anmar mirza) writes:
- >> A better solution
- >>would be a nationwide emergency frequency (similar to the FAA scheme) open to
- >>all for use and monitored by all police/fire/emergency services.
- >
- >We already have one of those. It's called channel 9.
-
- Unfortunately, channel 9 is on a frequency that is often not useful for
- local communications (which you assumedly want if you're looking for
- police/fire/emergency commo.) You really need something in the VHF/UHF
- frequency range. Talking to west Texas from Massachusetts can be fun in
- some instances, but not if you're trying to get an ambulance.
-
- >>>==>PStJTT
- Patrick St. Joseph Teahan Taber
-
- Mail address: nahhhhh, you don't want to send me mail....
-
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-
- Date: Mon, 11 Dec 89 18:11:32 EST
- From: tkelso%galaxy@afit-ab.arpa (TS Kelso)
- Subject: NASA Prediction Bulletins
-
- The most current orbital elements from the NASA Prediction Bulletins are
- carried on the Celestial RCP/M, (513) 427-0674, and are updated several times
- weekly. Documentation and software are also available on this system. As a
- service to the amateur satellite community, the most current of these elements
- are uploaded weekly to sci.space. This week's elements are provided below.
- The Celestial RCP/M may be accessed 24 hours/day at 300, 1200, or 2400 baud
- using 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, no parity.
-
- - TS Kelso
- SYSOP, Celestial RCP/M
-
- - Current NASA Prediction Bulletins #613 -
- Alouette 1
- 1 00424U 62B-A 1 89339.86776004 .00000489 00000-0 57472-3 0 2464
- 2 00424 80.4637 116.6546 0024294 49.7616 310.5649 13.67259080356275
- SOLRAD R/B
- 1 00727U 64001 A 89338.30855340 .00000462 00000-0 38270-3 0 3221
- 2 00727 69.8993 91.6034 0016117 245.3207 114.6222 13.93643996316791
- ATS 1
- 1 02608U 66110 A 89336.18192593 .00000000 00000-0 99999-4 0 829
- 2 02608 13.3626 15.2628 0003298 329.7603 30.2210 1.00390398 578
- Cos 185 R/B
- 1 03019U 67104 B 89341.23432525 .00010086 00000-0 68710-3 0 5178
- 2 03019 64.0696 283.8777 0196987 205.3314 153.8030 14.92244858130872
- ATS 3
- 1 03029U 67111 A 89339.15000023 -.00000074 00000-0 99999-4 0 2739
- 2 03029 12.9664 22.7925 0017023 205.0487 154.8559 1.00272475 80856
- Cosmos 398
- 1 04966U 71 16 A 89341.19273157 .00082899 16304-4 50649-3 0 3209
- 2 04966 51.5278 348.7112 2414789 154.4764 219.8295 10.75174286570769
- Starlette
- 1 07646U 75010 A 89339.87516620 -.00000034 00000-0 20653-4 0 9980
- 2 07646 49.8252 201.2237 0206197 272.7629 84.9687 13.82125864749048
- LAGEOS
- 1 08820U 76039 A 89340.50131425 .00000005 00000-0 00000 0 0 9408
- 2 08820 109.8556 289.1071 0044889 279.3213 80.2276 6.38663863 61632
- GOES 2
- 1 10061U 77048 A 89337.29930608 -.00000008 00000-0 00000 0 0 3308
- 2 10061 7.5759 66.1545 0008329 172.8675 187.0188 1.00278396 7071
- GPS-0001
- 1 10684U 78020 A 89340.47331011 .00000009 00000-0 99999-4 0 2845
- 2 10684 63.6341 95.5154 0114417 198.2353 161.3531 2.00558396 71985
- GPS-0002
- 1 10893U 78 47 A 89336.44971705 -.00000026 00000-0 00000 0 0 677
- 2 10893 64.4645 336.4971 0156466 26.2125 334.5949 2.00551633 84724
- GOES 3
- 1 10953U 78062 A 89340.34019413 .00000086 00000-0 99999-4 0 7755
- 2 10953 6.4811 68.7875 0005785 235.9586 123.8479 1.00258627 2663
- SeaSat 1
- 1 10967U 78064 A 89334.36486287 .00002688 00000-0 98172-3 0 2053
- 2 10967 108.0102 269.9985 0002982 272.0304 88.0493 14.35155733597925
- GPS-0003
- 1 11054U 78093 A 89337.25357800 -.00000026 00000-0 00000 0 0 1235
- 2 11054 64.0024 332.8404 0054429 120.2534 240.3067 2.00564671 81758
- GPS-0004
- 1 11141U 78112 A 89337.34948002 .00000009 00000-0 00000 0 0 2369
- 2 11141 63.6331 95.4962 0056277 318.9846 40.5935 2.00566154 80455
- NOAA 6
- 1 11416U 79 57 A 89339.96310882 .00002089 00000-0 88566-3 0 9401
- 2 11416 98.5201 332.1892 0009734 337.8974 22.1953 14.26286213542381
- GPS-0005
- 1 11690U 80 11 A 89340.47775022 .00000010 00000-0 00000 0 0 8736
- 2 11690 64.1163 97.3828 0111378 203.4877 156.0033 2.00558244 86371
- GPS-0006
- 1 11783U 80 32 A 89338.30353859 -.00000026 00000-0 00000 0 0 23
- 2 11783 63.8008 332.4150 0143242 60.8575 300.5885 2.00571832 70411
- GOES 4
- 1 11964U 80 74 A 89338.16994711 -.00000102 00000-0 00000 0 0 1095
- 2 11964 6.0509 71.6694 0030652 103.6094 256.6445 0.99230801 3710
- GOES 5
- 1 12472U 81049 A 89338.19634916 -.00000246 00000-0 99999-4 0 7875
- 2 12472 2.9760 78.3416 0001044 111.4304 248.2329 1.00267036 30293
- SME
- 1 12887U 81100 A 89341.08337243 .00036635 00000-0 10000-2 0 4037
- 2 12887 97.6689 13.6175 0003174 14.1376 345.9923 15.37332377451638
- Meteor 2-08
- 1 13113U 82 25 A 89337.30940625 .00000442 00000-0 38711-3 0 6793
- 2 13113 82.5373 284.3194 0014428 313.4693 46.5259 13.84097726388634
- Salyut 7
- 1 13138U 82 33 A 89341.03948526 .00043817 00000-0 76897-3 0 9122
- 2 13138 51.6073 186.4764 0001412 168.5690 191.5342 15.50091460434927
- Cosmos 1383
- 1 13301U 82 66 A 89339.32717843 .00000230 00000-0 25847-3 0 5223
- 2 13301 82.9300 82.8569 0027775 338.4190 21.5788 13.67779571371179
- LandSat 4
- 1 13367U 82 72 A 89339.89492494 .00002554 00000-0 57660-3 0 1771
- 2 13367 98.1923 40.9446 0003440 39.4822 320.6539 14.57134718393150
- Meteor 2-09
- 1 13718U 82116 A 89338.86350137 .00000599 00000-0 30878-3 0 8364
- 2 13718 81.2443 114.5697 0054864 233.2902 126.3232 14.13391371359666
- IRAS
- 1 13777U 83 4 A 89338.49808616 .00000498 00000-0 37052-3 0 6968
- 2 13777 99.0330 173.2000 0011862 201.4624 158.6023 13.98702723 19727
- Cosmos 1447
- 1 13916U 83 21 A 89325.07446472 .00000273 00000-0 27822-3 0 6617
- 2 13916 82.9469 165.9007 0039260 1.0348 359.0875 13.73978341334096
- TDRS 1
- 1 13969U 83 26 B 89336.20859286 -.00000205 00000-0 00000 0 0 8857
- 2 13969 3.9869 67.4196 0003853 195.2689 164.4209 1.00264057 91109
- GOES 6
- 1 14050U 83 41 A 89337.39699042 .00000120 00000-0 00000 0 0 429
- 2 14050 1.7397 80.4940 0000351 15.3874 343.7022 1.00261288 8301
- OSCAR 10
- 1 14129U 83 58 B 89336.63123568 -.00000082 00000-0 00000 0 0 4438
- 2 14129 25.9081 231.0972 6020032 98.1182 330.0455 2.05883572 20686
- GPS-0008
- 1 14189U 83 72 A 89339.39104786 .00000008 00000-0 99999-4 0 6874
- 2 14189 63.2660 93.9689 0140868 215.8202 143.2321 2.00562740 46876
- Meteor 2-10
- 1 14452U 83109 A 89335.89563385 .00000788 00000-0 33320-3 0 7931
- 2 14452 81.1611 125.4532 0094733 334.1095 25.5166 14.22464387316386
- LandSat 5
- 1 14780U 84 21 A 89339.92286879 .00002702 00000-0 60887-3 0 9924
- 2 14780 98.1462 38.6682 0004223 74.1218 286.0891 14.57156493306579
- UOSAT 2
- 1 14781U 84 21 B 89340.20803493 .00003902 00000-0 74335-3 0 5646
- 2 14781 97.9813 33.8906 0013211 134.6547 225.5760 14.64546019307712
- LDEF
- 1 14898U 84 34 B 89340.46238627 .00111776 00000-0 86210-3 0 681
- 2 14898 28.5037 29.5030 0002875 131.6187 228.4412 15.70408852318358
- GPS-0009
- 1 15039U 84 59 A 89337.95586935 .00000008 00000-0 00000 0 0 7708
- 2 15039 63.0121 93.2434 0016261 242.5400 117.2973 2.00563365 40128
- Cosmos 1574
- 1 15055U 84 62 A 89337.65835200 .00000247 00000-0 25423-3 0 8042
- 2 15055 82.9569 206.4119 0027725 144.3847 215.9158 13.73302988273236
- Meteor 2-11
- 1 15099U 84 72 A 89332.23676021 .00000550 00000-0 48758-3 0 9835
- 2 15099 82.5320 235.8860 0014042 133.2292 227.0040 13.83754125272804
- GPS-0010
- 1 15271U 84 97 A 89337.85425918 -.00000026 00000-0 00000 0 0 7318
- 2 15271 63.3049 332.0985 0104272 322.4517 36.8399 2.00570597 37231
- Cosmos 1602
- 1 15331U 84105 A 89339.52400643 .00005121 00000-0 72585-3 0 1246
- 2 15331 82.5360 180.1996 0021996 245.3909 114.5023 14.76710262279495
- NOAA 9
- 1 15427U 84123 A 89334.85051203 .00001037 00000-0 58374-3 0 4589
- 2 15427 99.1575 325.2179 0014768 202.9466 157.1044 14.12320761255989
- Meteor 2-12
- 1 15516U 85 13 A 89337.60942549 .00000297 00000-0 25611-3 0 1341
- 2 15516 82.5344 169.9983 0017589 3.8422 356.2867 13.84229014244494
- Cosmos 1686
- 1 16095U 85 86 A 89340.84606994 .00033608 00000-0 59297-3 0 4314
- 2 16095 51.6072 187.4348 0001396 186.7045 173.3646 15.50065581235993
- GPS-0011
- 1 16129U 85 93 A 89341.00470119 .00000009 00000-0 00000 0 0 3735
- 2 16129 63.7738 93.9797 0120999 149.6914 211.0574 2.00561177 30500
- Meteor 3-1
- 1 16191U 85100 A 89337.86430894 .00000043 00000-0 99999-4 0 8764
- 2 16191 82.5452 115.7891 0018913 234.8105 125.1245 13.16884596197854
- Meteor 2-13
- 1 16408U 85119 A 89337.76089422 .00000414 00000-0 36103-3 0 5510
- 2 16408 82.5328 84.7394 0015401 181.2116 178.9008 13.84256964199016
- Mir
- 1 16609U 86 17 A 89341.14189793 .00062019 00000-0 83953-3 0 2601
- 2 16609 51.6212 216.0061 0003315 132.8621 227.3062 15.57102988218135
- SPOT 1
- 1 16613U 86 19 A 89340.99724391 .00000909 00000-0 44505-3 0 6917
- 2 16613 98.7229 53.2477 0001457 61.5646 298.5703 14.20026016 36655
- Meteor 2-14
- 1 16735U 86 39 A 89337.83671813 .00000291 00000-0 25262-3 0 3395
- 2 16735 82.5351 111.5939 0013224 259.7477 100.2193 13.84001042177925
- Cosmos 1766
- 1 16881U 86 55 A 89340.21002906 .00005578 00000-0 79557-3 0 8149
- 2 16881 82.5251 238.8493 0020397 260.1231 99.7676 14.76482672180664
- EGP
- 1 16908U 86 61 A 89332.93418793 .00000006 00000-0 34764-3 0 1573
- 2 16908 50.0077 151.6160 0011413 46.5367 313.6416 12.44383300149923
- FO-12
- 1 16909U 86 61 B 89332.51013140 -.00000025 00000-0 99999-4 0 1759
- 2 16909 50.0174 153.2103 0010997 44.1423 316.0292 12.44403023149867
- NOAA 10
- 1 16969U 86 73 A 89341.24517571 .00001194 00000-0 54332-3 0 3137
- 2 16969 98.6221 8.3324 0014395 105.3773 254.8994 14.23345303167305
- Meteor 2-15
- 1 17290U 87 1 A 89337.57205910 .00000399 00000-0 35120-3 0 3139
- 2 17290 82.4682 17.9147 0013611 142.1356 218.0767 13.83820752147040
- MOS-1
- 1 17527U 87 18 A 89341.04859150 .00000872 00000-0 67438-3 0 3355
- 2 17527 99.1316 50.8787 0000420 127.5710 232.5507 13.94855720142473
- GOES 7
- 1 17561U 87 22 A 89338.09744039 -.00000028 00000-0 00000 0 0 3800
- 2 17561 0.0271 312.5842 0001563 358.4673 48.9477 1.00209457 3468
- Kvant-1
- 1 17845U 87 30 A 89340.82100867 .00011252 00000-0 15887-3 0 9318
- 2 17845 51.6198 217.6114 0003793 132.9551 227.2767 15.57087862154357
- DMSP B5D2-3
- 1 18123U 87 53 A 89341.13866678 .00001421 00000-0 77052-3 0 4333
- 2 18123 98.8226 169.3350 0011677 213.8217 146.2211 14.13747959127260
- RS-10/11
- 1 18129U 87 54 A 89341.08633354 .00000572 00000-0 61841-3 0 9663
- 2 18129 82.9251 110.4569 0010620 295.5417 64.4627 13.72038858123109
- Cosmos 1867
- 1 18187U 87 60 A 89341.07370804 .00000168 00000-0 83502-4 0 314
- 2 18187 65.0129 260.0027 0015616 253.4672 106.4667 14.29475910125836
- Meteor 2-16
- 1 18312U 87 68 A 89339.30513590 .00000219 00000-0 18868-3 0 3431
- 2 18312 82.5623 83.9713 0013636 77.1931 283.0832 13.83558863116173
- Meteor 2-17
- 1 18820U 88 5 A 89339.92196958 .00000216 00000-0 18413-3 0 1767
- 2 18820 82.5442 144.0867 0016710 143.1581 217.0731 13.84251257 93443
- DMSP B5D2-4
- 1 18822U 88 6 A 89339.74986335 .00001296 00000-0 61345-3 0 3398
- 2 18822 98.6685 217.5091 0007439 107.7116 252.5803 14.21129184 95345
- AO-13
- 1 19216U 88 51 B 89329.66526591 .00000234 00000-0 37172 0 0 553
- 2 19216 57.0495 180.6314 6840542 215.8249 68.9355 2.09707370 11120
- OKEAN 1
- 1 19274U 88 56 A 89341.07315025 .00001912 00000-0 27410-3 0 5837
- 2 19274 82.5176 336.6782 0023287 34.1356 326.1226 14.75886783 76577
- Meteor 3-2
- 1 19336U 88 64 A 89340.66422346 .00000391 00000-0 99999-3 0 3204
- 2 19336 82.5431 53.6421 0018689 70.7190 289.5870 13.16871564 65613
- NOAA 11
- 1 19531U 88 89 A 89340.07212109 .00001060 00000-0 60677-3 0 1738
- 2 19531 98.9583 283.4543 0013089 107.6506 252.6094 14.11329601 61720
- TDRS 2
- 1 19548U 88 91 B 89339.26943078 .00000131 00000-0 99999-4 0 573
- 2 19548 0.0121 223.5886 0002012 17.0638 119.3545 1.00275390 3500
- Cosmos 2001
- 1 19796U 89 11 A 89340.28986503 -.00001104 00000-0 99999-4 0 2816
- 2 19796 62.9287 117.9437 7183571 319.6002 4.9022 2.00562744 5937
- GPS-0014
- 1 19802U 89 13 A 89338.52075951 .00000016 00000-0 99999-4 0 599
- 2 19802 55.0741 205.0947 0062145 156.5073 203.8624 2.00560310 5845
- Meteor 2-18
- 1 19851U 89 18 A 89341.07251123 .00000117 00000-0 99999-4 0 1198
- 2 19851 82.5204 21.5229 0013954 178.2596 181.8626 13.83898438 38994
- TDRS 3
- 1 19883U 89 21 B 89336.91458107 -.00000235 00000-0 99999-4 0 398
- 2 19883 0.0917 92.3178 0009572 176.2693 91.3288 1.00261923 1922
- GPS-0013
- 1 20061U 89 44 A 89339.20367137 -.00000031 00000-0 00000 0 0 417
- 2 20061 54.6747 23.7180 0082718 170.2962 189.9183 2.00566282 3607
- Nadezhda
- 1 20103U 89 50 A 89340.13542919 .00000268 00000-0 27549-3 0 555
- 2 20103 82.9599 67.3052 0036604 214.5819 145.2954 13.73539051 21215
- GPS-0015
- 1 20185U 89 64 A 89339.17425154 .00000016 00000-0 99999-4 0 283
- 2 20185 54.9345 205.9483 0026354 136.7792 223.5175 2.00569769 6807
- Progress M
- 1 20191U 89 66 A 89335.10830293 .00020749 00000-0 29200-3 0 906
- 2 20191 51.6226 246.2221 0003690 120.8954 239.3771 15.56616067 15600
- Soyuz TM-8
- 1 20218U 89 71 A 89340.82094528 .00071042 00000-0 95963-3 0 901
- 2 20218 51.6291 217.6214 0003525 129.4092 230.4572 15.57101782 14346
- Cosmos 2038
- 1 20232U 89322.32348737 0.00000004 0 263
- 2 20232 82.5710 125.8639 0010702 238.4398 121.5652 12.65099955 8208
- Cosmos 2046
- 1 20259U 89326.86071613 0.00017745 29542-3 0 1246
- 2 20259 65.0309 96.5510 0010497 270.8635 89.2408 15.52083099 8721
- Magion-2
- 1 20281U 89321.23047500 -.00001059 -33552-3 0 1176
- 2 20281 82.5944 3.0200 1263875 97.1649 277.4407 12.42778015 6251
- 1989 084C
- 1 20299U 89319.66030688 0.00005136 30662-2 0 296
- 2 20299 34.2162 136.1180 7090533 18.4605 357.8498 2.49665854 691
- GPS-0016
- 1 20302U 89 85 A 89340.40327790 -.00000030 00000-0 99999-4 0 357
- 2 20302 54.7565 324.9164 0037694 305.6987 53.9667 2.00574461 888
- 1989 085B
- 1 20303U 89324.58710368 0.00008650 11234-2 0 264
- 2 20303 35.6522 154.4783 0337925 337.1459 21.4501 14.47461557 4377
- 1989 085C
- 1 20304U 89325.08364474 0.00163321 10792-4 15949-2 0 587
- 2 20304 37.7526 301.5327 5986438 226.4190 65.0844 4.17074007 1276
- Meteor 3-3
- 1 20305U 89 86 A 89340.00979679 .00000090 00000-0 21935-3 0 311
- 2 20305 82.5515 354.2504 0017370 90.2149 270.1035 13.15843359 5548
- 1989 086B
- 1 20306U 89326.24293298 0.00003177 83495-2 0 414
- 2 20306 82.5552 3.9545 0017126 121.2901 238.9863 13.16044176 3734
- IntelSat 6A
- 1 20315U 89331.91798177 -.00000222 10000-3 0 175
- 2 20315 0.1028 41.6104 0014547 219.5625 98.6861 1.00266854 270
- 1989 087B
- 1 20316U 89334.02695833 0.00006764 47963-2 0 337
- 2 20316 7.0300 182.4387 7262234 206.2815 82.9339 2.27829477 762
- 1989 070C
- 1 20317U 89 70 C 89335.48769175 -.00000018 00000-0 99999-4 0 172
- 2 20317 1.5631 288.4330 0233580 229.5139 128.4043 0.98761918 349
- Cosmos 2049
- 1 20320U 89 88 A 89341.10797319 .00059554 00000-0 99999-4 0 495
- 2 20320 64.7783 181.8319 0047258 109.3464 251.2015 16.00129794 3163
- COBE
- 1 20322U 89 89 A 89340.08122023 .00005549 00000-0 37545-2 0 221
- 2 20322 99.0250 347.4914 0006420 183.2904 176.8219 14.00544153 2448
- 1989 089B
- 1 20323U 89 89 B 89340.08905575 .00002036 00000-0 63095-3 0 119
- 2 20323 97.0672 345.4973 0080214 238.1897 121.1463 14.40122553 2514
- Cosmos 2050
- 1 20330U 89 91 A 89340.82197660 -.00000828 00000-0 35928-2 0 166
- 2 20330 62.9925 319.1125 7372856 316.3835 4.6873 2.00593121 272
- 1989 091B
- 1 20331U 89 91 B 89341.17707001 .01288914 37848-4 15110-2 0 240
- 2 20331 62.8411 271.5184 0191125 121.1309 240.9408 15.81595872 2108
- 1989 091C
- 1 20332U 89 91 C 89341.17132215 .03107534 39229-4 10137-2 0 272
- 2 20332 62.9245 270.9088 0152275 122.8445 238.8588 16.03348176 2117
- 1989 091D
- 1 20333U 89 91 D 89339.17390320 .00000448 00000-0 34603-2 0 79
- 2 20333 62.9795 319.3309 7342477 316.3455 4.7921 2.04172749 245
- Cosmos 2051
- 1 20334U 89 92 A 89340.60510894 .00011541 00000-0 18183-3 0 455
- 2 20334 64.9112 49.4193 0058327 222.1143 137.4682 15.51998566 1813
- Kvant-2
- 1 20335U 89 93 A 89340.88581869 .00024990 00000-0 34439-3 0 350
- 2 20335 51.6212 217.2896 0002755 345.6293 18.0594 15.57062525 1633
- 1989 094A
- 1 20338U 89 94 A 89341.06305232 -.00000230 00000-0 99999-4 0 123
- 2 20338 62.8353 166.4985 7355064 288.0644 9.5586 2.00875562 183
- 1989 094B
- 1 20339U 89333.48648940 -.00043365 -93525+0 0 107
- 2 20339 62.7531 167.5095 7395417 288.0394 9.3716 1.96638094 20
- 1989 094C
- 1 20340U 89 94 C 89341.21325103 .00957188 12084-4 13471-2 0 313
- 2 20340 62.8108 135.0134 0210709 122.1915 239.8917 15.75242881 1387
- 1989 094D
- 1 20341U 89 94 D 89341.12742257 .01231012 36470-4 11409-2 0 302
- 2 20341 62.8276 135.5864 0262202 118.1344 244.6563 15.69230134 1376
- 1989 100A
- 1 20347U 89336.03993528 0.00029041 89388-2 0 44
- 2 20347 82.6186 353.2764 1217722 61.7842 310.0776 12.52429319 6344
- 1989 095A
- 1 20350U 89 95 A 89341.14829046 .00680197 28009-4 29093-3 0 238
- 2 20350 67.1512 259.1745 0120894 71.0347 290.4103 16.07275069 1051
- 1989 096A
- 1 20352U 89338.02083333 -.00000843 10000-3 0 29
- 2 20352 51.8649 23.4611 9249571 286.8769 184.5246 0.24291372 18
- 1989 096B
- 1 20353U 89 96 B 89340.98573942 .00219845 86355-5 15598-2 0 268
- 2 20353 51.5436 6.5704 1176540 134.9758 235.2810 13.40456209 692
- 1989 096C
- 1 20354U 89 96 C 89338.99999998 -.00000805 00000-0 99999-4 0 15
- 2 20354 51.6030 24.1780 9217879 285.2190 280.0690 0.25077369 07
- 1989 096D
- 1 20358U 89340.09108538 0.00154406 60314-5 10986-2 0 15
- 2 20358 51.5309 9.8768 1178242 132.5055 238.1422 13.40080762 572
- Dr TS Kelso Asst Professor of Space Operations
- tkelso@icc.afit.af.mil Air Force Institute of Technology
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-
- Date: 11 Dec 89 17:30:21 GMT
- From: shlump.nac.dec.com!ryn.esg.dec.com!pstjtt.enet.dec.com!taber@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: rec.ham-radio is out of control
- Message-ID: <614@ryn.esg.dec.com>
-
- In article <Dec.11.09.56.33.1989.12326@topaz.rutgers.edu>, msmith@topaz.rutgers.edu (Mark Robert Smith) writes...
- >The charter of rec.radio.shortwave specifically INCLUDES monitoring,
- >on all bands. Unlike the elitist asses on rec.ham-radio, the founders
- >of rec.radio.shortwave (and the voters) decided to include ANYTHING
- >remotely close to monitoring shortwave radio.
-
- No hobby that I'm aware of is completely free of asses. Please don't
- the many by the ravings of the few.
-
-
- >>>==>PStJTT
- Patrick St. Joseph Teahan Taber
-
- Mail address: nahhhhh, you don't want to send me mail....
-
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-
- Date: 12 Dec 89 02:11:30 GMT
- From: amelia!pioneer.arc.nasa.gov!chguest@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Charles J. Guest)
- Subject: rec.ham-radio is out of control
- Message-ID: <4171@amelia.nas.nasa.gov>
-
- Found in rec.ham-radio:
- In article <30500318@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> phil@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
- =>> AT LEAST get the *&^%*&%* SWL and monitoring stuff out of here! I
- =>> mentioned this before. There now is a rec.radio.shortwave and yet
- =>> this groups still gets deluged with frequency posts and other massive
- =>> volumes of SWL related stuff.
- =>Why do you think that the monitoring stuff should be in rec.radio.shortwave?
- =>There are those who do one or the other and don't want anything to do with
- =>the one they weren't interested in. By the NAME of the group, shortwave
- =>listening goes there, but monitoring is still left out in the cold, and most
- =>people still expect it to be HERE. So until someone gets off their other
- =>end and sets up rec.radio.monitor I will continue to expect it to be here.
-
-
- Phil, (and everyone else),
-
- My understanding was that rec.radio.shortwave would be a place
- for anyone interested in the monitoring hobbies to come for
- discussion. There have already been several articles on jammers,
- scanning, and broadcast band dxing there.
-
- As a matter of fact when this was first discussed in news.groups
- thename considered was rec.radio.monitoring. Because a number
- of people felt that r.r.sw would be more descriptive for the
- average usenetter, the name approved, (by vote), was r.r.sw.
- However the charter allows the discussion of any monitoring topic.
-
- Come on over......we would love to have you if you are interested in
- these topics.
-
-
-
- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
- + *READ* ---> The opinions expressed above are to the best of my knowledge, +
- + however all options should be discussed with persons who have professional+
- + training with the subjects covered here. * ALL POSSIBLE DISCLAIMERS APPLY!+
- + ____FROM: chguest@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov =>or<= sun!ames!pioneer!chguest____+
- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
- + A new Soviet/American truism - KGB does NOT stand for Kinder Gentler Boys +
- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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